15 cm kwk 44 l/38

However, the design was soon abandoned in favour of a redesigned and enlarged Jagdpanzer 38(t), using German parts as opposed to the Czech parts for the Jagdpanzer 38(t). Re: 7,5 cm Kwk/StuK/Pak 40 Firing Table Data Post by critical mass » 25 Apr 2018, 17:52 For what´s worth, this is the 75mm M61 projectile from the same (USAPG) trial. The German Wehrmacht practiced a standard convention in naming their gun designs and models. To offset the increased weight, the bogies were spaced differently than on the E-50, with an extra pair added on each side, giving the E-75 a slightly improved track to ground contact length. Post Ru 251. [6] According to Kenneth Estes, a 150mm or even 170mm gun was proposed for the E-100 but Estes reports that Dr Karl Jenschke, the Adler works technical director and chief constructor, considered this only possible on an assault gun variant of such a vehicle, because the turret space could not support such weapons. Am I right in understanding no 15cm KwK 44 L/38 was ever completed? A most interesting aspect was the ability to lower the hull by placing the pivot points of the suspension units higher in respect to the hull bottom; by not having torsion-bars occupying the entire hull planform in the lowermost interior areas of the hull, but via cranks driven by hydraulic actuators on the sides of the hull. H and a slightly modified turret from the Maus. Elevation angle for gun 12,8 cm KwK 44 L/55 changed from 24 to 20 deg.. Depression angle for gun 12,8 cm KwK 44 L/55 changed from 8 to 7 deg.. Elevation angle for gun 15 cm KwK 44 L/38 changed from 23 to 20 deg.. E-50: Loading capacity E-50 changed from 64 000 kg to 60 000 kg. After the war, the French designed and built the AMX-50 series of armoured fighting vehicles, which used a 1000 hp Maybach engine with rear drive, as had been intended for the E-50 and E-75, whilst the idea of external Belleville washer suspension - which was also developed with the Entwicklung series in mind - resurfaced on the Swiss Panzer 61. by critical mass » 14 Jun 2018, 22:47, Return to “The Ron Klages Panzer & other vehicles Section”, Discussions on the vehicles used by the Axis forces. While boasting the same gun as the Maus in one configuration, the E 100 has the option of mounting the 15cm KwK 44 L/38 with good damage at 750/750/950. For example, the Tier-1 stock gun for the PzKpfw 35(t) was designated the 3,7 cm KwK 34 (t) L/40. This tank would have been very maneuverable, and due to its low profile, hard to spot on the battlefield. Development initially concentrated on a field gun known as the Kanone K 44. Otherwise I would guess the complete ones could be rifled and the incomplete maybe still be smooth, something like that? The 12.8 cm Pak 44 (Pak from German Panzerabwehrkanone "anti-tank gun") was a German anti-tank gun used during World War II.It was designed as a result of experiences on the Eastern front in 1943. Not necessarely. I found two similar projectiles. L/3,7 m.Hb. Il 15 cm KwK 44 era un progetto di cannone anticarro che avrebbe dovuto costituire l'armamento primario dell'E-100. It’s armament consisted of a 12.8 cm kwk 44 l/55 main cannon and a secondary 7.5 cm kwk 44 l/36.5 cannon. Said to have been designed by the Klockner-Humboldt-Deutz Magirus AG firm in Ulm, the E-10 (Development name - "Hetzer"[citation needed]) project was developed as a replacement of the Jagdpanzer 38(t). by Tenkist » 12 Jun 2018, 16:27, Post PzKpfw. E-100 ( 15 cm KwK 44 L/38) └ PzKpfw. 269 Views. Only the chassis was finished. Tier V for Germany isn't all that awesome right now, at least compared to the Cold War tanks that the US and Russia. 150 1946 concept german kwk tank ww2worldwar2. [2] Only Quads and Triangels (No N-Gons) All Elements named; Real Life Scale; Working Turret, Gun and Suspension (Not Rigged) Armor thickness and angles, based on Historical Data; So they had to go under water using a snorkel, and you had to have two Maus tanks to do this. January–February 1959 edition that a 150mm cannon was considered for the E-100 during the Second World War. The E-100 was to be a superheavy combat tank designed to be the replacement for the prototype-only, Porsche-designed Maus. Maximum speed was supposed to be 60 km/h. [7], Estes reports the following specifications for the E-100:[8]. As indicated by its name, the weight of the E-50 would fall between 50 and 75 tonnes. According to Panzer Tracts 6-3, there was a proposal for the 15 cm KwK 44 L/38 to be mounted on the E-100 as well. Armament is also not confirmed in any sources. Primary Armament: 12.8 cm KwK 44 L/55/15 cm KwK 44 L/38 Secondary Armament : co-axial 75 mm KwK 44 L/36.5, 7.92 mm MG34, MG150 20mm autocannon (pintle mount) Engine : Ford-Maybach HL 275, 1750 PS (1287.123 kw) It would have housed 128 mm KwK 44 L/55 (75 rounds) and a 7.5 cm KwK 37 L/24. Projectile, 150-mm, 15-cm Pz.Sprgr. by critical mass » 15 Feb 2018, 22:06, Post The 12.8 cm Pak 44 ended up becoming the standard main armament for the Jagdtiger heavy tank destroyer and a tank gun variant was the planned main armament for many future super-heavy tank designs in development during the last months of World War II, including the fully turreted PzKpfw VIII Maus and E-100, as the 12,8 cm KwK 44 L/55 main gun. As main armament a 75mm Pak 42 L/70 was planned with a possible MG in a small turret,[3] and is similar to the Hetzer tank destroyer. This suspension system was later used on the Swiss Panzer 61. According to Panzer Tracts 6-3, there was a proposal for the 15 cm KwK 44 L/38 to be mounted on the E-100 as well. The theme of this post is 15cm KwK 44 L/38 gun proposed for E100 heavy tank. by Tenkist » 12 Feb 2018, 14:04, Post A new turret was to be designed for the E-50 and E-75, but drawings were never made and the turret was never even conceptualised. E-75. Prev; 1; 2; Next; Page 2 of 2 . 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Germany had plenty of tanks that never quite made it into production that even if stupid, would at least help flesh out a couple spots in the Tier V area, things like … It can also mount the 15cm KwK 44 L/38 gun, which gives the E 100 more alpha damage while having less penetration and a longer reload. Did 15 cm KwK 44 L/38 & 10.5 cm KwK 46 L/68 exist? These were simply bolted on to the chassis and could be easily removed for repair or replacement. The penetration depends first and foremost on the projectile and it´s charackters. KorEEnium 2,527 KorEEnium 2,527 Tiger II … Operational range: 190 km (120 mi) (road) Speed: 40 km/h (25 mph) (theoretically) This is the only concept tank on this list. It was supposed to be a simplified Maus. This reduced the height of the vehicles from 176 cm to 140 cm. The E-25 designs, in the 25-50 tonnes weight class, were to be the replacements of all Panzer III and Panzer IV based designs, with Alkett, Argus and Adler, with involvement of the Porsche firm. With 'gun tubes' do they mean only the barrel or a complete breech-barrel assembly? Il pezzo in questione era un cannone da 150 mm la cui canna doveva essere lunga 38 calibri (L/38), equivalenti a 5,70 metri. 12.8 cm KwK 44 L/55; 15 cm KwK 44 L/38; Secondary armament. A.P. 12-3 (105 mm M40A1) SpPz. The projectile then takes over and loses velocity downrange due to drag. Turn rate of suspension E-50 changed from 24 to 30 deg/sec. Tiger I and Tiger II. The E-50 hull was to be longer than the Panther, in fact it was practically identical to the Königstiger (Tiger II) in overall dimensions except for the upper and lower glacis plate layout. [1] Much simplified was the suspension, which was intended to be based on the concept of using conical-spring Belleville washers for the E-series AFVs as a whole. Earlier drafts of the Maus showed that the maus was first planned to be equipped with the 15.0 cm kwk 44 L/38, but this was later replaced with the 12.8 cm kwk 44 L/55. Hosted by Christian Ankerstjerne. The earliest ancestor of the E-100 was the Tiger-Maus. IV Brummbär (Late) Tier V. SPz. I think that if the graph contains data about this gun then it had to exist and be fully functional. Jagdpanzer 75 15 cm KwK 44/L38. Nice. Other sources however, indicate that the E-75 was to be fitted with the much larger Tiger II turret, which could be adapted to accommodate an even more powerful high velocity 10.5 cm gun. The E-75 would have been built on the same production lines as the E-50 for ease of manufacture, and the two vehicles were to share many components, including the same Maybach HL 234 engine. 44% front of hull and turret Distribution of 98 hits on 36 Panther and Tiger: 1% hull rear 29% upper hull 15% hull side below the track line 24% turret side 22% front of hull 9% front of turret So the first data set shows a slightly higher prevalence of frontal hits, while the second set is … Panzer Tracts 6-3 contains this small paragraph. by Chupacabra94 » 06 Jun 2018, 11:06, Post The 5 cm KwK 38 L/42 (5 cm Kampfwagenkanone 38 L/42) was a German 50 mm calibre cannon used as the main armament of variants of the German Sd.Kfz. While boasting the same gun as the Maus in one configuration, the E 100 has the option of mounting the 15cm KwK 44 L/38 with good damage at 750/750/950. Begleitpanzer 57. Kenneth W. 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The E-series designs were simpler, cheaper to produce and more efficient than their predecessors; however, their design offered only modest improvements in armour and firepower over the designs they were intended to replace, such as the Jagdpanzer 38(t), Panther Ausf. This new design was called Jagdpanzer 38D. 90 Favourites. 12,8 cm KwK 44 L/55; 15 cm KwK 44 L/38; Másodlagos fegyverzet: 1db 75 mm KwK 44 L/36,5 (párhuzamosított) 1db 7,92 mm MG34: Műszaki adatok: Motor: 700 LE 23 L Maybach HL230 (prototípus) 1200 LE Maybach (indítványozott) Teljesítmény: 700-1200 LE: Sebesség: 23-40 km/h (motortól függően, feltételezett) km/h Caratteristiche tecniche []. The theme of this post is 15cm KwK 44 L/38 gun proposed for E100 heavy tank. A total of 6,756 examples were produced. Tucker-Jones, Anthony. B (8,8 cm PaK 43 L/71) StuPz. With a top speed of 20 km/h (12 Mp/h), it was incredibly slow. The kiddies weren't the low scoring problem; they don't think and they don't play smart, but they do actually play. Did 15 cm KwK 44 L/38 & 10.5 cm KwK 46 L/68 exist? The Tiger-Maus was never built, but it was to use components from the Tiger I Ausf. Very similar penetration results, but 0.5kg weight difference. by seppw » 18 Feb 2018, 14:48, Post PzKpfw. is an old naval APCBC-HE, developed during ww1, abandoned in the 1920´s and reintroduced in the mid1930´s. VTS1. by critical mass » 19 Feb 2018, 19:18, Post The 15cm L/3.7 Psgr m. Hb. The E-75 Standardpanzer was intended to be the standard heavy tank to be used as a replacement of the Tiger II and Jagdtiger. Followers 2. This intended to reverse the trend of extremely complex tank designs that had resulted in poor production rates and mechanical unreliability. Pen and Sword, 2013. There were to be standard designs in five different weight classes (E-10, E-25, E-50, E-75 and E-100) from which several specialised variants were to be developed. So, how does this concern tier 9 and tier 10? It would have housed 128 mm KwK 44 L/55 (75 rounds) and a 7.5 cm KwK 37 L/24. A significant advantage of the L/3.7 was that against homogenious armor, it regularely stayed intact and didn´t broke up even at high obliquity. The pathological non-contributors … This is an apolitical forum for discussions on the Axis nations and related topics hosted by the Axis History Factbook in cooperation with Christian Ankerstjerne’s Panzerworld and Christoph Awender's WW2 day by day. Specifications reminds me of the russian 122mm/152mm guns. G or Tiger II; and would have represented the final standardization of German armoured vehicle design. However, the penetration of the 15 cm is a serious detriment to a Tier X heavy when fighting other top tier heavies when running full AP. According to some sources, the similarities between the E-50 and the E-75 went further; they were to be equipped with the same turret and 88mm L/71 or L/100 gun, along with an optical rangefinder for increased long range accuracy (German scientists and engineers had successfully designed a 'schmal' or narrow turret and infra-red lighting and sights for use on the prototype [Panther F], as the war drew to a close). 2 Comments. 1 / 5 While boasting the same gun as the Maus in one configuration, the E-100 has the option of mounting the 15cm KwK 44 L/38 with good damage at 750/750/950. E-100 15 cm KwK 44 L/38 150 Caliber (mm) 3,64 Rate of fire (rounds/min) 228/304/85 Average penetration (mm) 750/750/950 Average damage 0,37 Accuracy at … By Sirchby, July 1, 2016 in Historical Discussion. The E-75 would have had much thicker armour however, and in fact compared to the Tiger II the E-75 had improved hull armour all round. 141 Panzerkampfwagen III medium tank during the Second World War.There was no towed anti-tank gun equivalent. During early development the Maus turret was used on the E-100, but later a modified Maus II turret was proposed to have been used. Looking at the gun selection, the only gun in the E-series that fit the philosophy is the 15 cm KwK 44 L/38 on E-100 (without even knowing the performance of the tank itself). Also, if the Maus ever wanted to cross a bridge, it couldn’t! The E-100 is a German tier 10 heavy tank The last tank of the Entwicklung series, the E 100 is more mobile than the Maus, but is less armored. [4], According to Panzer Tracts 6-3, there was a proposal for the 15 cm KwK 44 L/38 to be mounted on the E-100 as well. Sign in to follow this . The muzzle brake and additional recoil compensators suggest that more powerful (paper/fictional) ammo could be used (after all, the KwK 44 E-100 150mm ammo is IMHO fictional too, I haven’t found any serious evidence of its performance apart from a few mentions in Panzer Tracts 6-3). From Ryan Graves & Seattle Wedding Videography. 150mm L/38. Panzerjäger VI Tiger Ausf. This family would include medium reconnaissance vehicles, medium Jagdpanzer and heavy Waffenträger, using five Tiger II style road wheels but larger[citation needed] per side in a similar overlapping layout to the lighter E-10 suspension, also with "slack-track" design and a rear drive sprocket. The intention was to create several new light tank destroyers as a replacement for the Jagdpanzer 38(t),[citation needed] as well as a new family of Waffenträger armed with heavy anti-tank guns. The engine was an improved Maybach HL234 which had 900 hp. There were plans to upgrade the Main gun from a 12.8 cm kwk 44 l/55 to a 15.0 cm kwk 44 l/38. 12.8 cm KwK 44 L/55; 15 cm KwK 44 L/38, or; 17.3 cm Kwk 44 (Note: the 17.3 cm Kwk 44 was only going to be mounted on the non-turreted tank destroyer like variant of the E-100) 1943 … Its mobility and firing range and the effectiveness of its 44 kilogram shell made it the most important weapon of all German infantry divisions. The E-50 Standardpanzer was intended as a standard medium tank, replacing the Panther and Tiger I and the conversions based on these tanks. Main armament: 15 cm KwK 44 L/38 Engine: 23L Maybach HL230 700 HP (prototype) Power/weight: 4.52 hp/ton (prototype) Suspension: Belleville washer coil spring. It was taken to the United Kingdom for evaluation purposes and eventually scrapped. The Entwicklung series (from German Entwicklung, "development"), more commonly known as the E-Series, was a late-World War II attempt by Nazi Germany to produce a standardised series of tank designs. Activation Group - (6) block.turret, (7) launch Smoke Granate. Development and building of a prototype E-100 started in 1944 but was largely abandoned after Adolf Hitler ordered an end to the development of the Maus. As we can see on the graph AP shell weighed 45kg and was fired with a muzzle velocity of 740m/s I am interested in what type of projectile was used. By TigerclawAUT Watch. Filmed by Sarah. Compared to these earlier designs however, the amount of drilling and machining involved in producing these Standardpanzer was reduced drastically, which would have made them quicker, easier and cheaper to produce, as would the proposed conical spring system, replacing their predecessors' torsion bar system which required a special steel alloy. The 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze 18 or sFH 18 (German: "heavy field howitzer, model 18"), nicknamed Immergrün ("Evergreen"), was the basic German division-level heavy howitzer during the Second World War, serving alongside the smaller but more numerous 10.5 cm leFH 18. Not sure if this would hold true vs harder armor, too. As its name indicates, the resulting vehicle would have weighed in at over 75 tonnes, reducing its speed to around 40 km/h. Very. The gun is just a mere medium of accelerating the projectile to a given initial velocity. The US military magazine Armor reported in its Indeed, nearly all of the E-series vehicles — up through and including the E-75 — were intended to use what were essentially the Tiger II's eighty centimeter diameter, steel-rimmed road wheels for their suspension, meant to overlap each other (as on the later production Tiger E and Panther designs that also used them), abandoning the interleaved Schachtellaufwerk roadwheel system that first appeared on German military half-tracks in the early 1930s. ยานรบหุ้มเกราะ E-100 (เยอรมัน: Panzerkampfwagen E-100) เป็นรถถังของนาซีเยอรมนีในช่วงสงครามโลกครั้งที่สอง สร้างในเดือนมิถุนายน ค.ศ. The designs based on this new chassis would all be in the 10 to 25 tonnes weight class, and using only four Tiger II-style but larger[citation needed] all-steel road wheels per side in an overlapping layout for its main "slack-track" suspension with no return rollers and a rear drive sprocket. VIII Maus. [5] This was also reported by Anthony Tucker-Jones. This designation means that the gun is of a design adopted in 1934 and intended for use as a KampfwagenKanone (tank mounted main gun). PzKpfw. attached the penetration graphs of 15cm Psgr L/3.7 against ductile and soft, naval homogenious armor (Wh/n.A., ca.80kg/mm² tensile strength) for the usual standarts (5/5 successful attempts in a narrow velocity band). The German Army came upon the Soviet 122 mm field guns and issued a requirement for a similar weapon. by Tenkist » 19 Feb 2018, 19:25, Post Founded in 1999. While boasting the same gun as the Maus in one configuration, the E 100 has the option of mounting the 15cm KwK 44 L/38 with good damage at 750/750/950. If this would hold true vs harder armor, it couldn ’!! Combat tank designed to be used as a replacement of the L/3.7 was that against armor! ) block.turret, ( 7 ) launch Smoke Granate they mean only barrel... 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